Tuesday, October 14, 2008
MS: Well, Brownies was really popular, and I was going to all the underground…Todd P shows, Lightning Bolt shows, all of those kind of shows, and I’d go by myself and I’d stand around. Erase Errata, I remember seeing at some weird place, and I’d stand around, like once a week, stand around, just very awkward. It’s very awkward.
Pitchfork: I know how you feel. It’s weird to go to those kind of shows alone because there are all these social things going on around you…
MS: And you’re bored!
Pitchfork: Yeah, just kinda waiting for the things to start. Everyone is either enveloped in what they are doing, with the people they are talking to, or way too shy to deal with anyone else.
MS: Exactly. And I felt, it was really the in-between, just standing there and I’d be so bored, and this was before, like, I had a cell phone. Or most people had a cell phone. And I was just standing there, so I’d try to talk to people, and people would just be like, “Oh.” Or they’d be like, “So what do you do?” And I’d be like, “I play music.” “Oh, really, what label are you on?” “None.” “Oh.” It sucked! It sucked, it sucked, it sucked. And I used to call my best friend and be like “Ooooooooooh!” She calls it a “facial disgracial.” Like, “Ohhhhhhh, I want to show those people someday, damn it!” She was watching Network, and there’s a scene, the guy is like, “I’m mad as hell and I’m not gonna take it anymore!” And so we called our little thing Mad as Hell, like, “Fuck this shit, we’re mad as hell! What the fuck!” So we went into this crazy little world. No socializing, just reading constantly, we were nerds, nerds, nerds. And that was when the biggest creative surge of my life happened, and nothing like that has ever happened since. My mind was open. Open to anything and everything, and that was the best two years of my whole life. You want to get back to it, but it’s just not there anymore.”