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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently came accross your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I dont know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; Sarah&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.thetreadmillguide.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thetreadmillguide.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p> Sarah</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.thetreadmillguide.com" REL="nofollow">http://www.thetreadmillguide.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intriguing post, thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to second the comment about reading the initial post and these comments and feeling like my head was spinning (if not feeling like I&#039;m kind of stupid).  Honestly, the entire reason I have a music blog is because I love music...and, more importantly, because it helps feed my addiction to getting new CDs without costing me anything beyond hosting costs.  I&#039;d like to say that it&#039;s because I absolutely need to discover new bands first (though that doesn&#039;t hurt, and it is nice to be thought of as a music geek within my circle of friends), or because I wanted to be able to connect with like-minded people (though knowing that people outside of  my city listen to the same music as I do has been a comfort), or because I&#039;m opinionated and like thinking that people elsewhere give credence to what I say (I am opinionated, but given the fact that no one ever leaves comments on my blog, I don&#039;t think anyone cares about anything I post other than the MP3s)...but really, it&#039;s all about getting free music, and lots of it.  So selfish?  Absolutely.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And I don&#039;t think that music blogs have really impacted the mainstream yet, or even a large portion of the non-blogging culture for that matter.  The bands I consider to be &quot;big&quot; are hardly known within their own cities, let alone on any larger scale...to use an example, on my site I do a larger feature/contest on a band each week.  This week I&#039;m doing a Toronto band called Henri Faberge and the Adorables...I love them to the extent that I travelled five hours for their CD release show, and the show was pretty well-attended (400 people or so, with 13 other bands on the bill, all of whom were in some way related to the Adorables).  But I realize how small the band really is when I talk to other people in Toronto, most of whom have never heard of the band despite the fact that they&#039;re huge within the (very small) community that I&#039;m familiar with.  I realize that this is Canada I&#039;m talking about, so it&#039;s a much smaller scale, but still -- I think that being involved in music blogging throws your whole perspective out-of-whack, and makes it harder to judge the popularity of a band...and, by extension, a lot harder to judge the impact of music blogs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to second the comment about reading the initial post and these comments and feeling like my head was spinning (if not feeling like I&#8217;m kind of stupid).  Honestly, the entire reason I have a music blog is because I love music&#8230;and, more importantly, because it helps feed my addiction to getting new CDs without costing me anything beyond hosting costs.  I&#8217;d like to say that it&#8217;s because I absolutely need to discover new bands first (though that doesn&#8217;t hurt, and it is nice to be thought of as a music geek within my circle of friends), or because I wanted to be able to connect with like-minded people (though knowing that people outside of  my city listen to the same music as I do has been a comfort), or because I&#8217;m opinionated and like thinking that people elsewhere give credence to what I say (I am opinionated, but given the fact that no one ever leaves comments on my blog, I don&#8217;t think anyone cares about anything I post other than the MP3s)&#8230;but really, it&#8217;s all about getting free music, and lots of it.  So selfish?  Absolutely.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t think that music blogs have really impacted the mainstream yet, or even a large portion of the non-blogging culture for that matter.  The bands I consider to be &#8220;big&#8221; are hardly known within their own cities, let alone on any larger scale&#8230;to use an example, on my site I do a larger feature/contest on a band each week.  This week I&#8217;m doing a Toronto band called Henri Faberge and the Adorables&#8230;I love them to the extent that I travelled five hours for their CD release show, and the show was pretty well-attended (400 people or so, with 13 other bands on the bill, all of whom were in some way related to the Adorables).  But I realize how small the band really is when I talk to other people in Toronto, most of whom have never heard of the band despite the fact that they&#8217;re huge within the (very small) community that I&#8217;m familiar with.  I realize that this is Canada I&#8217;m talking about, so it&#8217;s a much smaller scale, but still &#8212; I think that being involved in music blogging throws your whole perspective out-of-whack, and makes it harder to judge the popularity of a band&#8230;and, by extension, a lot harder to judge the impact of music blogs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Marcus</title>
		<link>http://www.marathonpacks.com/2006/09/on-shifting-focus-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-1292</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I process this information for a post of my own, as I&#039;m sure many of you have or will, I just want to comment quickly on a comment.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tuwa, you say &quot;Lucas and others have a good point: maybe our work isn&#039;t having much effect at all.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I, for one, would not be where I am had the availablity of conversations like this not been so compelling over the last few years. Of course there are other factors, like education and profession and musical taste, etc, but music blogs have in a way validated my own interests in the industry, in writing, in criticism, in the acceptance of the validity of a conversation like this one: simultaneously geeky and profound.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So it is a bit like cherry picking, in that we learn from each other and go out into the world with our knowledge, whether it&#039;s in a blog or elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I process this information for a post of my own, as I&#8217;m sure many of you have or will, I just want to comment quickly on a comment.</p>
<p>Tuwa, you say &#8220;Lucas and others have a good point: maybe our work isn&#8217;t having much effect at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>I, for one, would not be where I am had the availablity of conversations like this not been so compelling over the last few years. Of course there are other factors, like education and profession and musical taste, etc, but music blogs have in a way validated my own interests in the industry, in writing, in criticism, in the acceptance of the validity of a conversation like this one: simultaneously geeky and profound.</p>
<p>So it is a bit like cherry picking, in that we learn from each other and go out into the world with our knowledge, whether it&#8217;s in a blog or elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was an excellent read, although I have to admit that after making my way through the post and all of the comments, my head is spinning a little bit.  It&#039;s particularly thought-provoking though, due to the fact that over the course of the last week, several people have asked me why I have a music blog, and I found myself saying &quot;um, I like music?&quot; and then thinking about that answer after the fact.  I pretty much fall under the exact description of the typical blogger, except for the fact that I&#039;m a female, and I most definitely agree with the fact that it&#039;s a completely selfish effort, and that I&#039;m doing it for myself.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s hard to wrap my head around my exact motivation though.  My stock answer for why I blog typically refers to my career as a college radio DJ, which I was doing long before I started blogging.  I see blogging as a natural extension of DJing - it&#039;s just sharing the music I love with other people. I&#039;m definitely willing to admit that the increasing recognition and &quot;popularity&quot; of my site feels pretty damn nice - but  I would take one email saying &quot;wow, I found this song on your site and completely love it&quot; over hundreds of additional hits any day. My favorite thing about DJing is something similar - phone calls from someone who wants to know what I&#039;m currently playing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s funny though, I do think we&#039;re all a little guilty of putting too much emphasis on music blogs.  Sure, collectively they have an effect, but outside of certain areas, I don&#039;t think their hype has much influence.  I live in Nashville and I&#039;ve been to several shows featuring bands that have been blogged to death and just sold out their show in NY - and five people show up to see them here. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for writing this Eric.  You definitely got me thinking. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was an excellent read, although I have to admit that after making my way through the post and all of the comments, my head is spinning a little bit.  It&#8217;s particularly thought-provoking though, due to the fact that over the course of the last week, several people have asked me why I have a music blog, and I found myself saying &#8220;um, I like music?&#8221; and then thinking about that answer after the fact.  I pretty much fall under the exact description of the typical blogger, except for the fact that I&#8217;m a female, and I most definitely agree with the fact that it&#8217;s a completely selfish effort, and that I&#8217;m doing it for myself.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to wrap my head around my exact motivation though.  My stock answer for why I blog typically refers to my career as a college radio DJ, which I was doing long before I started blogging.  I see blogging as a natural extension of DJing &#8211; it&#8217;s just sharing the music I love with other people. I&#8217;m definitely willing to admit that the increasing recognition and &#8220;popularity&#8221; of my site feels pretty damn nice &#8211; but  I would take one email saying &#8220;wow, I found this song on your site and completely love it&#8221; over hundreds of additional hits any day. My favorite thing about DJing is something similar &#8211; phone calls from someone who wants to know what I&#8217;m currently playing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny though, I do think we&#8217;re all a little guilty of putting too much emphasis on music blogs.  Sure, collectively they have an effect, but outside of certain areas, I don&#8217;t think their hype has much influence.  I live in Nashville and I&#8217;ve been to several shows featuring bands that have been blogged to death and just sold out their show in NY &#8211; and five people show up to see them here. </p>
<p>Thanks for writing this Eric.  You definitely got me thinking. <img src='http://www.marathonpacks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: newbobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>newbobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the overlooked reasons for music blogs, author selfishness notwithstanding is that -- for the reader -- they offer the chance to develop a kind of social knowledge that has some application in their world outside of the blogosphere (what this article interestingly examines as &quot;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/business/for-youth-knowledge-is-currency/2006/07/25/1153816182784.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;urban capital&lt;/a&gt;&quot;).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In my peer group, I am probably one of the few, if not only, that goes deep into the blogs. Despite the fact that we all share very similar tastes, why am I the only one who regularly scouts the blogs for new music? One easy answer is that is the role I&#039;ve taken in my social group. Others don&#039;t need to troll the blogs, because for them, I become their clearinghouse (through both my actual blog -- which in truth only my mom reads with any regularity -- and though old fashioned peer-to-peer sharing). &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In this way, blogging isn&#039;t necessarily only an insular culture. We each cherry pick certain things from the blogosphere and bring them with us into the real world. Half my friends probably don&#039;t realize where I discovered Catfish Haven, but they are all now fully on board... And so the end result of two to three blog posts, filtered through just one reader, has yielded 5-10 fans outside the blogosphere. So in many ways, I see blogs as being much more relevant to the outside world than they have been credited with. Granted, we&#039;re not sending CYHSY to the Top 40, but look at how far they&#039;ve come using blog buzz as a venue for their intial publicity. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I guess this is just to say that, while the author is certainly an important part of the equation, you can&#039;t discount the way information is passed on through the reader and what value the reader takes from the existence of blogs..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the overlooked reasons for music blogs, author selfishness notwithstanding is that &#8212; for the reader &#8212; they offer the chance to develop a kind of social knowledge that has some application in their world outside of the blogosphere (what this article interestingly examines as &#8220;<a HREF="http://www.theage.com.au/news/business/for-youth-knowledge-is-currency/2006/07/25/1153816182784.html" REL="nofollow">urban capital</a>&#8220;).</p>
<p>In my peer group, I am probably one of the few, if not only, that goes deep into the blogs. Despite the fact that we all share very similar tastes, why am I the only one who regularly scouts the blogs for new music? One easy answer is that is the role I&#8217;ve taken in my social group. Others don&#8217;t need to troll the blogs, because for them, I become their clearinghouse (through both my actual blog &#8212; which in truth only my mom reads with any regularity &#8212; and though old fashioned peer-to-peer sharing). </p>
<p>In this way, blogging isn&#8217;t necessarily only an insular culture. We each cherry pick certain things from the blogosphere and bring them with us into the real world. Half my friends probably don&#8217;t realize where I discovered Catfish Haven, but they are all now fully on board&#8230; And so the end result of two to three blog posts, filtered through just one reader, has yielded 5-10 fans outside the blogosphere. So in many ways, I see blogs as being much more relevant to the outside world than they have been credited with. Granted, we&#8217;re not sending CYHSY to the Top 40, but look at how far they&#8217;ve come using blog buzz as a venue for their intial publicity. </p>
<p>I guess this is just to say that, while the author is certainly an important part of the equation, you can&#8217;t discount the way information is passed on through the reader and what value the reader takes from the existence of blogs..</p>
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		<title>By: Team Clermont Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Team Clermont Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, Matt, about the convenience of media creation and distribution in the digital world.  I mostly think democratization is a good thing, but it has almost totally killed music as a viable commercial model, and I still believe, however naively, that musicians deserve compensation for their work like everybody else.  The whole &quot;there&#039;s always touring argument&quot; is really geared to rock bands and unrealistic for a lot of &#039;em.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m not sure if you mean that consumerism of music is a bad thing, though, and maybe you didn&#039;t mean it as such.  I hate print!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tuwa, I didn&#039;t want to make it sound like the blogs don&#039;t affect anything because they do.  I&#039;m just saying that it&#039;s good to remember why you got into the blogging game and stay away from &quot;we are changing the world&quot; hubris.  I&#039;ve been personal blogging since 2002 and there was this brief moment where I was getting, like, 200 hits a day and I thought, man!  I am gonna make some money here!  I made 20 dollars in donations.  From one person.  Ha.  I think I wrote better before that.  No pressure, just passion.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I still need the money, though.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Where was I?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Matt, about the convenience of media creation and distribution in the digital world.  I mostly think democratization is a good thing, but it has almost totally killed music as a viable commercial model, and I still believe, however naively, that musicians deserve compensation for their work like everybody else.  The whole &#8220;there&#8217;s always touring argument&#8221; is really geared to rock bands and unrealistic for a lot of &#8216;em.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if you mean that consumerism of music is a bad thing, though, and maybe you didn&#8217;t mean it as such.  I hate print!</p>
<p>Tuwa, I didn&#8217;t want to make it sound like the blogs don&#8217;t affect anything because they do.  I&#8217;m just saying that it&#8217;s good to remember why you got into the blogging game and stay away from &#8220;we are changing the world&#8221; hubris.  I&#8217;ve been personal blogging since 2002 and there was this brief moment where I was getting, like, 200 hits a day and I thought, man!  I am gonna make some money here!  I made 20 dollars in donations.  From one person.  Ha.  I think I wrote better before that.  No pressure, just passion.</p>
<p>I still need the money, though.</p>
<p>Where was I?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is definitely an interesting read, but then that&#039;s to be expected here at Marathonpacks.  I&#039;ve thought a lot about music blogs, blogs in general even, and their place in the grand scheme of things and to me it seems as if the shift already happened seven to ten years ago.  That&#039;s about the time I first remember products such as Cubase, Cakewalk, the Sonic Foundry stuff, and &quot;prosumer&quot; video cameras really starting to find a place in stores all across the country.  At that point companies learned that there&#039;s a vast market of creative hopefuls willing to spend lots of money on hobbies.  People started to hope that they could spend $4,000 and have a recording studio, or video production company, right in their own house or apartment.  After all, everyone&#039;s got some unappreciated master level creativity that could rocket them to fortune and fame if only they had the tools to do so, right?  Such notions have made reality TV shows, Final Cut Pro (Apple in general), Pro Tools, You Tube, MySpace, and blogs, hot shit at one time or another.  The beauty of the blog, however, lies in its appeal to everything that is stereotypically thought of as American.  Blogs offer free speech to a seemingly unlimited audience at the cost of nothing more than the blogger&#039;s time.   A rise from zero to hero with just a little bit of hard work on a computer?!  Whereas purchasing a DVX-100, a G5, and Final Cut Pro are an attempt to lead one out of amateurism and into the realm of the working professional video production, blogs seem to offer a similar potential to hone and share the craft of writing and yet this isn&#039;t truly what most blogs are really about.  Speaking strictly for music blogs, which I&#039;m most familiar with, they seem to be not much more than a response to (and documentation of) personal consumerism.  To me, that is precisely what music bloggers are: professional consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is definitely an interesting read, but then that&#8217;s to be expected here at Marathonpacks.  I&#8217;ve thought a lot about music blogs, blogs in general even, and their place in the grand scheme of things and to me it seems as if the shift already happened seven to ten years ago.  That&#8217;s about the time I first remember products such as Cubase, Cakewalk, the Sonic Foundry stuff, and &#8220;prosumer&#8221; video cameras really starting to find a place in stores all across the country.  At that point companies learned that there&#8217;s a vast market of creative hopefuls willing to spend lots of money on hobbies.  People started to hope that they could spend $4,000 and have a recording studio, or video production company, right in their own house or apartment.  After all, everyone&#8217;s got some unappreciated master level creativity that could rocket them to fortune and fame if only they had the tools to do so, right?  Such notions have made reality TV shows, Final Cut Pro (Apple in general), Pro Tools, You Tube, MySpace, and blogs, hot shit at one time or another.  The beauty of the blog, however, lies in its appeal to everything that is stereotypically thought of as American.  Blogs offer free speech to a seemingly unlimited audience at the cost of nothing more than the blogger&#8217;s time.   A rise from zero to hero with just a little bit of hard work on a computer?!  Whereas purchasing a DVX-100, a G5, and Final Cut Pro are an attempt to lead one out of amateurism and into the realm of the working professional video production, blogs seem to offer a similar potential to hone and share the craft of writing and yet this isn&#8217;t truly what most blogs are really about.  Speaking strictly for music blogs, which I&#8217;m most familiar with, they seem to be not much more than a response to (and documentation of) personal consumerism.  To me, that is precisely what music bloggers are: professional consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuwa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Eric, you can quote me if you want; I don&#039;t mind.  Though I really have no idea how common my opinions are in the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Eric, you can quote me if you want; I don&#8217;t mind.  Though I really have no idea how common my opinions are in the field.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuwa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuwa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point about the writing, stepfatherfactory.  Aside from Fluxblog, Said the Gramophone, and Girish (who posts mostly about movies, anyway), I can&#039;t think of many mp3blogs whose writing I&#039;ve ever thought was particularly good.  I do visit most of them for the music.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lucas and others have a good point: maybe our work isn&#039;t having much effect at all.  Frankly I&#039;m surprised anyone can make any money at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point about the writing, stepfatherfactory.  Aside from Fluxblog, Said the Gramophone, and Girish (who posts mostly about movies, anyway), I can&#8217;t think of many mp3blogs whose writing I&#8217;ve ever thought was particularly good.  I do visit most of them for the music.</p>
<p>Lucas and others have a good point: maybe our work isn&#8217;t having much effect at all.  Frankly I&#8217;m surprised anyone can make any money at it.</p>
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